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This entry was posted on 11/7/2008 1:04 PM and is filed under Thoughts.

I know that recently my blogs have turned political, and I have never before been a political person, but I can't seem to get away from the emotions of what is going on politically around me. On one hand, history has been made and change and hope have begun with the election of Barak Obama as our next president! There is no clearer demonstration of how this great country is now ready to choose possibility over discrimination. Being raised in Philadelphia, a racially tense city, I know this is HUGE. Something I never thought I'd see in my lifetime. It is truly a joyous, incredible event in many, many ways.

In the midst of all this joy and talk of the end of discrimination, four states passed propositions with anti-gay measures. Florida and Arizona have now legally banned marriage for gay people, Arkansas has made it illegal for single parents to adopt or foster children (and since gay people cannot legally wed, they are very much the target of this proposition), and here in my own state, California, the right for gays and lesbians to marry (which they were granted by the Supreme Court of California earlier this year) has been taken away. 

Let's call a spade a spade. This is not about marriage. It is about equality. It is about being seen in the eyes of the laws of this country as just another of her people. Another flavor in the mixing pot that is America. Opponents to gay marriage often complain that it is about gays and lesbians wanting to become more visible - that suddenly children will be taught about gays, and then will "succumb" and become gay. Gays and lesbians know that you don't "become" gay by having knowledge about being gay, or having contact with gay people. It is not a disease you catch, or a drug you become addicted to. You either are or you are not. Period. The push for marriage is not about becoming visible - it is about becoming invisible. Invisible in the eyes of the law. Being just another citizen in love, committed to another, doing what other citizens in this country currently do - marry. Invisible as to become just another person in "We the people". 

There is a trend now for many people to use religion as a means to make it okay to discriminate against gays and lesbians. To make it acceptable to say to someone else "you are less than", "you are immoral", "you are wrong". To justify feeling righteous and better than. To play God. The religious people against gay marriage have been turning religion into an "I am right and you are wrong" institution. An "if you don't agree with me, you need to change or disappear, for I have no room for you" institution. The little I know of the various religions in the world is that they all share an ultimate belief in doing good, and being good to thy fellow man There is so much hatred being spewed in the name of God, people have lost sight of what they are saying. I know God is all about love. God IS love. And from what I know, Jesus was all about love. Jesus would not discriminate. Where is the love for thy fellow man and woman from these "God loving" people? Sections of religions have morphed into something else, and blinded people's hearts and clouded their minds. Surely if you strip away the power and greed from any religion, there is love. And love crosses all religions, all races, and all differences.

Proposition 8 in California passed on election day. As stated on the ballot, it "Eliminates right of same-sex couples to marry". It was backed (financially and morally) largely by the Mormon Church. As I understand it, people in church were told to donate money toward this Proposition which would take the current right of marriage AWAY from gays and lesbians. I know this is a democratic country, and people can vote for hate and to discriminate if they choose, but I must get it out and say it - shame on them. One would hope that people, particularly religious people, would be loving enough to allow for differences in others, but I guess we as a society have not evolved there yet. It was not just the Mormons. A Latina friend of mine was told by her priest in a church sermon to vote for for the Proposition. Again, I say shame on him. Shame on those who voted against gay people being seen as equal in this country. Shame on all the Christian conservatives, the Mormons, and others, who use religion as a way to convince people that "family values" are only for their families and not for those different from them. Shame on them for declaring again and again that gays and lesbians do not deserve what they themselves have been given - the right to marry, adopt kids, and most importantly to have a voice. Shame on the Republican party - one of the two most powerful political parties in America - for consistently excluding gays and lesbians in their agenda to better the United States of America. How can you better America, when you don't stand for all her people?? Shame on the minorities that already know what it is like to be discriminated against, yet they voted to discriminate against gays and lesbians, many in the name of God. This includes the 50% or so of Latinos in California who voted for Proposition 8, even after all they go through in their ongoing battles to be seen as equal in this country. It includes the 77% or so of black voters who voted to take away a legal right from gays and lesbians. Given the cruel and oppressed history blacks have faced in this country - which has taken years, tears, lives and countless struggles to overcome - they should know better than most, how it feels to not have equal rights. 

Many people who think they are fair minded, say that gays and lesbians should be happy with a "civil union" and not with calling it a "marriage." Calling it anything else would be making gays and lesbians drink from a different fountain - the same way blacks were forced to drink form separate drinking fountains in the distant past. If you say something is right for one but not for another, you can talk semantics all you want but there is no way around it in the end - it is discrimination. Again let's call a spade a spade. This is not about marriage and the union between a man and a woman. It is about the fulfillment of the dream that is America. The dream that this country is indeed the land where all men and women, regardless of race, creed or religion - and sexual orientation - have equal rights across the board, to live their lives and contribute to this great country that is America. When we can get to a place where we can allow for each others differences, we won't recognize life. It will be a true paradise for all. All our passion and energy would be available to support and love each other. To work together on anything and everything. And each person would be able to contribute their unique perspective - adding insight, human connectedness, and a deeper meaning to life. What a joyous place this would be! We scratched the surface in a big way with the election of Barak Obama. We have tasted a glimmer of what that would be like. 

It is not an easy road to equality for any minority. Look how long it has taken a minority to be elected President. My hope is that being a minority, knowing what it is like to be part of a people that have been wrongfully perceived as less than, President-elect Obama will live up to his words and unite us all, and be a leader for ALL people. 
 

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    • 11/8/2008 12:31 AM Chelo wrote:
      Jay, I could not agree more. I am proud of being your friend, thanks for your speaking out loud. I am so outraged by the step backwards California has taken! I noticed that Obama included gay people when listing minorities... on the same national gay-bashing night. That gave me some hope. We may be able to return dignity to all gay people. We must all fight for it. Your straight friend who loves his many gay and lesbian friends.
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    • 11/8/2008 6:29 PM Frank Slesinski wrote:
      I am in total agreement! I believe, however, there is a slim chance we might still prevail when all of the mail in ballots are counted (to be announced on 12/12 or 12/13, I believe. I have not seen anything about this in the press (print or other media), but I've heard there are 3 million such ballots yet to be counted. Dare we hope??
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    • 11/13/2008 6:57 PM INIGO wrote:
      Thanks Jay! Your comments open my mind. I agree with you. Let me share with you a poem by William Ernest Henley, "Invictus" (Undefeated, in latin):

      Out of the night that covers me,
      Black as the Pit from pole to pole,
      I thank whatever gods may be
      For my unconquerable soul.

      In the fell clutch of Circumstance
      I have not winced nor cried aloud.
      Under the bludgeonings of Chance
      My head is bloody, but unbowed.

      Beyond this place of wrath and tears
      Looms but the Horror of the shade,
      And yet the menace of the years
      Finds, and shall find me, unafraid.

      It matters not how strait the gate,
      How charged with punishments the scroll,
      I am the master of my fate:
      I am the captain of my soul.

      Take care.
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    • 12/7/2008 7:45 PM Paul wrote:
      i'll take a chance as a fundamentalist christian and express why i have an opposing view - with love and respect, of course - that's number one - we're all human - we're all sharing this planet earth!

      as a fundamentalist christian, i know this seems crazy to most people, but we sincerely believe that by opposing gay marriage that we are helping our nation and world because we believe in our hearts that God would allow our nation and world to be punished if we made gay marriage legal - and we don't want anyone punished - gays or straight! - okay, it may seem twisted and warped to most, but we really believe it - so not wanting gays to be punished is an act of love on our part - even if it seems insane to the gay community that fundamentalist christians think they are being loving by opposing gay marriage - at least i hope, for my part, that a gay person could understand that in my universe it is ONLY LOVE that compels me to oppose gay marriage

      now fundamentalist christians also believe God will allow us to be punished for many other things - so it's not like we consider gay marriage any worse than any other thing we consider a sin - take any unmarried straight man and woman who have sexual relations - they are having sex outside of marriage - another thing we consider a sin - but, of course, we know there's plenty of that going on every day - i guess if we were totally consistent, we should be trying to outlaw any sex outside of marriage

      at any rate, a fundamentalist christian also believes (again, as insane as i know this sounds to most people) that straight people would be much happier if they abstained from sex until marriage and that gays would be much happier if they received the grace from God to be straight - again, crazy and even hateful this may sound to most - but honestly again i say that we actually believe this would make people happier and live more loving, fulfilling lives

      so please see the loving reasons that we have in our own minds - as crazy and hateful as it seems on the outside

      even though i am a fundamentalist christian who opposes gay marriage, my best friend is gay and knows i feel and think this way and he is still friends with me - i love him as a friend and that is a wonderful thing

      i know in history some crazy church people have tortured and even murdered others in the name of God - i despise that with all my heart - i would never want to do anything violent to anyone because they are different from me - if gay people think my opposing gay marriage is a violent act of some kind, i am truly sorry

      even as we differ on the issue of gay marriage, i want both sides to have peace - we live in a country where we have the right to keep fighting for what we believe in - i respect the gay community's right to fight for gay marriage
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    • 12/8/2008 12:17 AM Jay Jacobson wrote:
      Hi Paul. Thanks for your comment! While i don't agree with much of what you say, I do appreciate your taking the time and energy to post your thoughts. Here's my difference of opinion:

      I feel that everyone is entitled to their own beliefs. I'm troubled when people feel their beliefs are the "correct" ones, and feel they must impose them on others. According to what you wrote, it wold seem that Fundamentalist Christians believe they personally know the will of God. I'm sure Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and the hundreds of other religions all think they know God's will. As for going by what the bible states as a guideline, it seems many people who are opposed to homosexuality pick and choose what to live by from the bible. I'm not a bible expert, but I do know that it states that eating shellfish is an abomination. And that it is OK to sell one's daughter into slavery. I also know the passage: "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If that is something a Fundamentalist Christian would live by, I guess it would be OK to remove their right to marry as well. I don't mean to sound like I'm against Fundamental Christians, it just seems from what you are saying they are in favor of treating people who aren't like them differently - even if in the name of love. You totally have a right to believe what you want about God and about people who are not like you. However, this is America. And America is a country with separation of church and state. America is not a Christian country. It it a country made up of Christians, Jews, Baptists, and people from hundreds of other religions. To treat one minority differently, is to say that we should be judged by our differences - that they make us better or worse than other people. It is the same thinking that kept blacks from having the same rights as whites in America until the civil rights movement. That type of thinking also justifies Germany's treatment of Jews during World War II. The list could go on and on....

      You state that gays would be happier if they'd receive the grace of God to be straight. Obviously if someone is gay, they aren't straight. To believe that they would be happier living as someone they are not makes no sense at all. Homosexuality has been around since the beginning of time and will always be around. It even exists in animals, insects and fish. Like it or not, it is part of life. If someone is not gay, how in the world can they speak about what it is like to be gay?? That would be like a man speaking about what it is like to be a woman.

      You also mention that in history people have tortured and murdered in the name of God. Although advocating that gays should not be able to have what straights have is not torture or murder, it is killing off humanity. Call it love, but it is cruelty. It is telling people that you believe that who they are is fundamentally wrong and then taking action to make them suffer. And that, I believe, is exactly the opposite of what God is about.
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